Do you think Obama was talking about Palin in an indirect way when he made the lipstick on a pig comment?

Is it ';plausible deniability?';Do you think Obama was talking about Palin in an indirect way when he made the lipstick on a pig comment?
Yes, he was. He had a smirk on his face when the audience laughed.Do you think Obama was talking about Palin in an indirect way when he made the lipstick on a pig comment?
Enough is enough. The McCain campaign’s attack is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy – the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Clinton’s health care plan just last year. This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run.





For heaven's sake - Sarah Palin doesn't own the word ';lipstick'; since she said it in a speech. Obama has also used this analogy before and often gets laughs - its just a funny expression.





The Republicans have nothing else except to try to turn this into a soap opera - that is why they elected her. They have no ISSUES (just ask McCain's own spokesman, he said it).
No, I don't think so. I've heard the ';lipstick on a pig'; phrase many times before. McCain even used it before in reference to Hillary's health care proposal. Obama's used it to suggest that McCain's policies were the same as Bush's. It had nothing to do with Palin whatsoever.





The McCain/Palin campaign reaction to this was completely inappropriate.





Here's some text from that speech, maybe someone can tell me where he mentions Palin:





';John McCain says he’s about change, too — except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics. That’s just calling the same thing something different. You can put lipstick on a pig; it’s still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change; it’s still going to stink after eight years.”
I think after he heard her lipstick joke, his subconscious was searching for something related and when it found the ';lipstick on a pig'; comment, his subconscious shoved it straight out of his mouth.





I don't think he intentionally chose those words as an insult. I think when he realized what he'd said, he probably had to work hard not to laugh and then his next thought was along the lines of ';Oh sh*t, I don't believe I said that.';





I don't like him all that much and I'm not voting for him, but I definitely understand how those words could have been a subconscious reaction to nothing more sinister than the word ';lipstick,'; with no insult intended at all. Cut him some slack, people. There are some substantive issues that need to be addressed, and that won't happen as long as the 2 campaigns talk about nothing but Sarah Palin.






I'd bet he's used that line many times before in his life, and didn't realize until later that people might look at it differently now. I heard the context of the remark, and I don't think most people would think he had Palin in mind at the time.





I remember one politician talking about fixing up inner city housing stock by staying it's like putting ';rouge on a corpse.'; Same idea.
Not at all, that quote is as old as the hills. McCain and Palin, like most republicans, have so little to offer the common man that they have to run a campaign of fear, intimidation, mudslinging, and lies. If they said '; You know we're all about tax breaks for the super rich and corporations and we will rarely be bothered with the plight of the average american.'; they wouldn't get a vote, and quite frankly they shouldn't.
I am sure he didn't think anyone would make that connection.


He was no doubt confused by the reaction of his audience.


He is too nice to have made such a negative statement.


He couldn't possible have known that people would make THAT far fetched of a leap.


He is the victim of dirty politics that's all, quit picking on him.


These are the facts:


He didn't want to call that Governor a pig.


He didn't think anyone would think he was calling her a pig.


His audience just laughed and hooted like that because they never heard that cliche' before.


He was not aware that anyone would make that connection because he is simple minded and thinks everyone is good.


But those Republicans set him up and now he is being victimized. I feel sorry for him, I really do.


I wouldn't vote for him because I oppose his plan to spend 10 billion dollars on educating 3 year old children. I don't think the government should be indoctrinating kids that young.


Think about it if he know that it offensive and he did any way that would be dumb, if he didn't think that anyone would think it was offensive than that is dumb. Either way its dumb or stupid but he is smart and knows how to use email!
I'lll assume you are new to YA .....and not stupid.





Because this issue has been beat to death on YA. Youre a day late and a dollar short (to use another popular phrase).





The phrase ';lipstick on a pig'; has been around for ever.





Dick Chaney used in in 2004 to describe John Kerry (here's the footage):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwVEeq7J…





John McCain used it to describe Hillary Clinton's health care plan (here's the footage): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJ…





Even Mike Huckabee said that Obama did not refer to Palin as a Pig.


(yep....here's the footage on that): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXokM9Tax…





I guess you don't really have ';plausible deniability'; do you?











Now...there was no outrage when Chaney used the phrase to describe John Kerry. There was no outrage when McCain used the phrase to describe Hillary Clinton's health care plan.





If Sara Palin and her followers are so sensitive....so weak.....so fragile that Obama referring to McCains new ';change'; platform as ';lipstick on a pig'; offends them.....then Palin ain't ready for politics at the national level. She needs to pack up her toys and go home to Alaska. If she's that fragile.....then she's not a pittbull.....she's a poodle.





Edit:


So......I show you 2 clips of Chaney and McCain using the phrase ';lipstick on a pig'; to describe Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and you throw up a smoke screen of your own and imply that I'm unemployed.





To clarify -- I work ';full time'; too. Neat, huh, you're not the only full time employee that is on YA!! Lots of us are!





Not only that....I even read and do research on the candidates positions to determine who I want to vote for and why. So I don't have to make my decisions based on sound bites and commercials.





Guess, I'm just really good at time management.
No, that is just an old way of saying the GOP is just wrapping the same ploicies in fresh paper. Kurt Vonnegut used the same approach when he wrote, ';White icing on dog poop does not make a wedding cake; it makes a frosted dog turd';.





Obama was referring to John McCain's policies, ie they will be the same as what President Bush has been doing.
It's stupid, he didn't said her name, he wasn't talking about her policy!





He was talking about McCain economic plan compared to Bush, It's still the same whether McCain put it in a different way or not!





Cons must be desperate to go that far!





McCain himself used that same phrase three times, and no outrage, was he refering it to Hillary Clinton?
this is the real reason our country is screwed we worry more about a stupid worthless comment than the real issues run their own campaigns and quit pointing fingers act like adults already.


Kit was totally right WHO CARES something more important or worth asking about. Calling all dems or rep liers is low don't you think generalizing makes a person look stupid having every single person lie is impossible and make you the dishonest person don't bring down your party saying things if you want to make democrats look good stand up and bring something that matters not insults or fingerpointing get work done.
No he was talking about McCain's politics.





You can say you are going to change, but if we look back at what you have done and what you have stood for, you can't be seen as anything different than you always have been.
I am very in love with Palin and will not vote for Obama. However, I don't think he was refering to her in that quote.





I do think that he used poor judgment. He should have known that it looked a lot like he was refering to her.
I think it is obvious that he was talking about her. Notice in the video how he covers his eyes before he says it. Unfortunately, everyone has to give him the benefit of the doubt.
this is so obvious!





Old fish (McCain) , pig with lipstick (Palin)


This couldn't have been planned any better.


It just slipped out what he was thinking.





';plausible deniability?'; What a farce.



No. This is just another dirty sad attempt to pull the gender card and lie to play the victim and try to get some more votes for mcsame. Repos always lie.
Oh, another attempt to deflect from Palin's poor performance, huh?





No. Why are Neocons trying to victimize Palin?
Don't think he was calling her a pig, but do think he used a poor expression to state his belief in her unreadiness to serve as president. It was the first time that I saw him lose his cool.
No he was talking about McCain's economic plan. It's a well known expression. They even have tape of McCain saying it about Hillary
Did you read the full quote? How can he go from talking about McCain's Changes, ALL THE SUDDEN to Palin? I think you Republicans are horrible.
Of course not - - - - Not any anymore than McCain meant it during the million times he used the term.
No.


Palin is a dog, not a pig.


Her own words, not mine.
It's an old term for pork barrel bills in congress decorated as something else.
Really don't think so- Obama has too much class and kindness, and intelligence to stoop to that
No he was not. McCain has use the same phrase when he was talking about Hillary.
No...everything but her.
You have it exactly right.
I can picture the brain session now:





Obama: I hate that lipstick comment getting her votes, we need to turn it around.





Crony: I know, we'll talk about something else that we can say they're lying about, then throw in the old ';you can put lipstick on a pig...';





Obama: Yeah. Liberals will get it; we're all such brainchildren. Repubs won't even catch it.
He was referring to Palin's remarks in her speech at the convention. It was a HOT comment, he had to say something to buck it. Can you say BACKFIRE.
Probably.


He isn't very tasteful or relevant. : D
Not Obama, but that crowd was...damn liberals go plant a tree and save the planet...we need war baby war